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I started getting twitches when I switched from Norpramine to Wellbutrin. When I lie on my back to go to sleep, and start to drop off, my head snaps suddenly sideways. After a few of these, I fall asleep. I don’t have them any other time, or any other part of my body. As far as I’m concerned, this is a very mild and tolerable side effect, so much so that I always forget to mention it to my pdoc. But it seems clear to me it was the Wellbutrin that caused it.
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>I’ve read the posts by people who are having some weird, >uncontrollable movements, likely because of their meds. >I wanted to follow up the post instead of creating a new one, >but my server is weird and won’t allow me to post unless >my post is longer than the original. Oh well. Anyway, I’ve >noticed a change in my body movements. For one thing, >my leg used to have `dystonic’ shifts from time to time. >Now, instead of my leg, my entire upper body, excluding >my head experiences twitches from time to time. I’m not >particularly worried about them, simply because they haven’t >given me a reason to be concerned. It’s just an oddity. My >elbow will just jut out for a second, for no reason whatsoever. >Or my shoulder will shift back unexpectedly. I’m on Depakote >and Effexor, and one of them are likely a cause.
i’m on depakote and paxil, switching to pamelor now – i am torn between thinking i ALWAYS had the twitches, and am just not afraid to let them go now, now that i’ve been diagnosed properly. but it COULD be general 5-HT drugs (wellburtin, serzone, effexor, and the SSRIs) that are causing this – we at least have that in common for our meds. and i did get the tremors when starting paxil. "Dark Prism" – My personality refracts darkly through the serotonigenic spectrum. Thomas A. Ott — ottthoma (at) pipeline.com – [3 t's in ottthoma!!!] http://www.geocities.com/~ottthoma — main site http://www.geocities.com/~ottthoma/depression/index.html—– depression site http://www.geocities.com/~ottthoma/depression/sjw.html —— st. john’s wort stuff FCC Regulations provide up to 500 dollars in damages PER INCIDENT for Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail. Go ahead. Make my day.
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I’ve read the posts by people who are having some weird, uncontrollable movements, likely because of their meds. I wanted to follow up the post instead of creating a new one, but my server is weird and won’t allow me to post unless my post is longer than the original. Oh well. Anyway, I’ve noticed a change in my body movements. For one thing, my leg used to have `dystonic’ shifts from time to time. Now, instead of my leg, my entire upper body, excluding my head experiences twitches from time to time. I’m not particularly worried about them, simply because they haven’t given me a reason to be concerned. It’s just an oddity. My elbow will just jut out for a second, for no reason whatsoever. Or my shoulder will shift back unexpectedly. I’m on Depakote and Effexor, and one of them are likely a cause. Another weird thing: during my sleep, I’ve been told I speak in French from time to time. I guess that’s funny, because it means that I should be fluent now. Weird. I’d blame that one on the Amitryptiline I take before bed to help me sleep. It’s true that antidepressants don’t act as `uppers,’ but they probably incite action on particular areas while you’re sleeping. I’d like to see someone who can top speaking a foreign language when they’re asleep!
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I would really love to read Champagne’s posts but they run on and on off the page…I mean I realize I can scroll right, but it’s a pain. Any remedy for this? Loreen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’ve read the posts by people who are having some weird, uncontrollable movements, likely because of their meds. I wanted to follow up the post instead of creating a new one, but my server is weird and won’t allow me to post unless my post is longer than the original. Oh well. Anyway, I’ve noticed a change in my >body movements. For one thing, my leg used to have `dystonic’ shifts from time to time. Now, instead of my leg, my entire upper body, excluding my head experiences twitches from time to time. I’m not particularly worried about them, simply because they haven’t given me a reason to be concerned. It’s just an oddity. My elbow will just jut out for a second, for no reason whatsoever. Or my >shoulder will shift back unexpectedly. I’m on Depakote and Effexor, and one of them are likely a cause. Another weird thing: during my sleep, I’ve been told I speak in French from time to time. I guess that’s funny, because it means >that I should be fluent now. Weird. I’d blame that one on the Amitryptiline I take before bed to help me sleep. It’s true that antidepressants don’t act as `uppers,’ but they probably incite action on particular areas while you’re sleeping. I’d like to see someone who can top speaking a foreign language when they’re asleep!
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<Posted and Mailed to Champagne> >I’ve read the posts by people who are having some weird, uncontrollable = >movements, likely because of their meds. I wanted to follow up the post=
>instead of creating a new one, but my server is weird and won’t allow = me to >post unless my post is longer than the original. Oh well. = Anyway, I’ve >noticed a change in my body movements. For one thing, my = leg used to have >’dystonic’ shifts from time to time. Now, instead of = my leg, my entire >upper body, excluding my head experiences twitches = from time to time. I’m >not particularly worried about them, simply = because they haven’t given me a >reason to be concerned. It’s just an = oddity. My elbow will just jut out >for a second, for no reason = whatsoever. Or my shoulder will shift back >unexpectedly. I’m on = Depakote and Effexor, and one of them are likely a >cause. I have similar twitches. The only medicine we are taking in common is Effexor (300 mg/day). So that could possibly be the cause of these muscular spasms. However I am much more willing to be "twitchy" — than depressed! I was prescribed Klonopin which is very effective against these spasms. Klonopin also hopefully allows a person to achieve the necessary amount of Level 4 deep restorative sleep without "PLMS" Periodic Limb Movements during Sleep — also known as "Myoclonus". I hope this doesn’t sound like an advertisement for Klonopin — but it has totally eliminated my panic/anxiety disorder. It also greatly assists in bringing me back down to earth when I am having a dysphoric hypomanic or mixed state episode. Of course when I am in a euphoric hypomanic state, I am usually unwilling to take Klonopin — unless I realize that I am flying too high and too fast. >Another weird thing: during my sleep, I’ve been told I speak in French >from time to time. I guess that’s funny, because it means >that I should be fluent now. Weird. I’d blame that one on the = >Amitryptiline I take before bed to help me sleep. It’s true that = >antidepressants don’t act as ‘uppers,’ but they probably incite action >on particular areas while you’re sleeping. I’d like to see someone who >can top speaking a foreign language when they’re asleep!
Even though Spanish is not my "heart language", I still dream in it from time to time. Now that I have returned to the States, I have noticed that as my fluency decreases, so do my "foreign" dreams. The expression "Use it or lose it!" is unfortunately all too true. 
Since I sleep (and live) alone, I don’t even know if I talk in my sleep — muchless in which language! <G> Best wishes to you at Rutgers from, James
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Champagne said: >I’ve read the posts by people who are having some weird, uncontrollable >movements, likely because of their meds.
I read the reply by James Milton, who said he experiences a similar thing and also takes effexor. Well, my husband started having the same thing when his dosage of paxil was increased from 20mg to 40mg. We both noticed it starting right at that time, so I am sure it was the cause. I guess a lot of meds can do this… I never heard of this as a side effect of paxil, but at the time, it was the only med he was taking. Very interesting…
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>Champagne said: >I’ve read the posts by people who are having some weird, uncontrollable >movements, likely because of their meds.
I get the shakes and twitches a lot.. but I did that even before I went on meds. There is a remarkable increase for me though. Sometimes my shaking and twitches are like seizures, according to my boyfriend, I just sleep right through them. If it werent for him coming to visit me and being there, I wouldnt have known about this going on. I dont know how much is psychological and how much is from meds. Oh yeah.. I speak German in my dreams sometimes..LOL.. it is good to know that others do that too.. ~Arielah~ ~~*~~*~ For love is fierce as death,
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > <Posted and Mailed to Champagne> >I’ve read the posts by people who are having some weird, uncontrollable >movements, kely becauseli of their meds. I wanted to follow up the post >instead of creating a new one, but my server is weird and won’t allow me to >post unless my post is longer than the original. Oh well. Anyway, I’ve >noticed a change in my body movements. For one thing, my leg used to have >’dystonic’ shifts from time to time. Now, instead of my leg, my entire >upper body, excluding my head experiences twitches from time to time. I’m >not particularly worried about them, simply because they haven’t given me a >reason to be concerned. It’s just an oddity. My elbow will just jut out >for a second, for no reason whatsoever. Or my shoulder will shift back >unexpectedly. I’m on Depakote and Effexor, and one of them are likely a >cause. > I have similar twitches. The only medicine we are taking in common is > Effexor (300 mg/day). So that could possibly be the cause of these > muscular spasms. > I hope this doesn’t sound like an advertisement for Klonopin — but it > has totally eliminated my panic/anxiety disorder. It also greatly > assists in bringing me back down to earth when I am having a dysphoric > hypomanic or mixed state episode. Of course when I am in a euphoric > hypomanic state, I am usually unwilling to take Klonopin — unless I > realize that I am flying too high and too fast. >Another weird thing: during my sleep, I’ve been told I speak in French >from time to time. I guess that’s funny, because it means >that I should be fluent now. Weird. I’d blame that one on the >Amitryptiline I take before bed to help me sleep. It’s true that >antidepressants don’t act as ‘uppers,’ but they probably incite action >on particular areas while you’re sleeping. I’d like to see someone who >can top speaking a foreign language when they’re asleep! > Even though Spanish is not my "heart language", I still dream in it from > time to time. Now that I have returned to the States, I have noticed > that as my fluency decreases, so do my "foreign" dreams. The expression > "Use it or lose it!" is unfortunately all too true. > Since I sleep (and live) alone, I don’t even know if I talk in my sleep > — muchless in which language! <G> > Best wishes to you at Rutgers from, > James
Hello, I noticed my husband is on Limbitrol and he sleeps heavily and he twitches and makes comments and has all sorts of good entertaining things. One night he thought he was a bus driver, he was mad, he is always angry in his dreams well he screams and yells, and I asked him, "What are you doing honey?" Half awake myself, now awake. " Why do parents always have to bring the damn kids.?" Pointing fingers and raising his arms up into the air as if he was trying to push them onto the bus. "Well, honey ," trying to hold my composure, "What are you trying to do?" " I have a bus schedual to run and if I don’t get them all on the bus, I am going to be late." I told him the next day if he had a dream and if he ever drove a bus, nope he never was one and never had the experience as one, not even for a church, yet he was one that day. Another night I came in and he was yelling a screaming again. "Don’t throw the sawdust on the house." "What honey?" Looking very concerned because this was the first time I had experienced something like this being my first marriage and all and just got married. "Hey, don’t throw those sticks on the house." I am really upset now and wake him up out of dead sleep to tell him he was dreaming and was yelling at me. I told him to shut up for now on. Well, it is still continuing now he is taking pictures with a camera and showing someone how to do it, he also was building a house or something and yelled and screamed, drugs do funny things to a person while sleeping. We are planning on moving to PA and building a house, do you suppose this was it? I have no idea. Drugs, yuck. but we can’t live without them. Can we? Rhonda
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