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I’m wondering how any of you might deal with the anger of being in pain. Today I *had* to work. I was a week behind in my client updates and I can’t afford to lose a client. As I was trying to do it the pain kept breaking my concentration and I was getting so angry because I just wanted to get the work done! Trouble is, when I get angry at the pain it seems the pain gets worse 
A vicious circle and I would like to learn a way of not going round on the ride. Distraction techniques work for me for moderate pain but for the kind that takes over my whole thought process there is no distracting. I’m not an angry person generally, but lately I’m angry much of the time. The poor mes, I know, but how can it be gotten around? People have said to me "Try harder" or "Think of those who are worse of than you". Ya right, that makes me feel a *lot* better. I’m pretty sure that not everyone dealing with pain is angry. So, any ideas?
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>I’m wondering how any of you might deal with the anger of being in pain. >Today I *had* to work. I was a week behind in my client updates and I can’t >afford to lose a client. As I was trying to do it the pain kept breaking my >concentration and I was getting so angry because I just wanted to get the >work done! Trouble is, when I get angry at the pain it seems the pain gets >worse A vicious circle and I would like to learn a way of not going round >on the ride. Distraction techniques work for me for moderate pain but for >the kind that takes over my whole thought process there is no distracting. >I’m not an angry person generally, but lately I’m angry much of the time. >The poor mes, I know, but how can it be gotten around? People have said to >me "Try harder" or "Think of those who are worse of than you". Ya right, >that makes me feel a *lot* better. I’m pretty sure that not everyone dealing >with pain is angry. So, any ideas?
Actually, I’m pretty angry a lot of the time about having to stop working at a job that I absolutely loved. What I try to do is keep certain times when it’s OK to be angry and try to keep those feelings to those times. It doesn’t always work, and I fight it a lot, but I’m scared to death that anger is going to trigger the damn depression again this year and so I’m trying to keep it under control. Do you know any breathing exercises? I do them regularly to keep anxiety down and to keep from having to pop a valium or something. I’ve also found that they can help sometimes when the anger feels physical. I can "teach" you a good one if you want to write to me offline. Can you break the work down into smaller pieces, so that you get a feeling of having accomplished something as you complete each segment? Maybe that could help. I don’t think it helps a bit to think about people who are worse off, or to try harder, whatever the hell that means. This is about YOU, and it’s about your pain and you’ve got to get past the anger that goes with it. Otherwise it will drain off energy you don’t really have. All I can do is wish you luck in finding a good way to deal with the anger we all feel to some degree or another. You’ll do it. mary
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Aloha, Get down to the behavoral health clinic, talk to a psych nurse or doc and ask for a sample of Zyprexa 2.5 mgs. Get some Sam-e and start at 1200 mgs a day. You will change for the better with few and manageable side effects compared to your present regimen. Way to keep trying to learn. Aloha, P
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m wondering how any of you might deal with the anger of being in pain. > Today I *had* to work. I was a week behind in my client updates and I can’t > afford to lose a client. As I was trying to do it the pain kept breaking my > concentration and I was getting so angry because I just wanted to get the > work done! Trouble is, when I get angry at the pain it seems the pain gets > worse A vicious circle and I would like to learn a way of not going round > on the ride. Distraction techniques work for me for moderate pain but for > the kind that takes over my whole thought process there is no distracting. > I’m not an angry person generally, but lately I’m angry much of the time. > The poor mes, I know, but how can it be gotten around? People have said to > me "Try harder" or "Think of those who are worse of than you". Ya right, > that makes me feel a *lot* better. I’m pretty sure that not everyone dealing > with pain is angry. So, any ideas?
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Hmm, never thought of it as psychosis. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Zyprexa ain’t something to "take" for anger…that is an atypical > antipsychotic and has its place and its use (it is actually a helluva lot > better than the older alternatives), but I wouldn’t recommend it for > this…the SAM-E, have fun…not sure if it will work but it won’t hurt…as > long as you are not allergic to it or any of its components. > — > Bill Work > Aloha, > Get down to the behavoral health clinic, talk to a psych nurse or doc and > ask for a sample of Zyprexa 2.5 mgs. Get some Sam-e and start at 1200 mgs > a > day. You will change for the better with few and manageable side effects > compared to your present regimen. > Way to keep trying to learn. > Aloha, P > > I’m wondering how any of you might deal with the anger of being in pain. > > Today I *had* to work. I was a week behind in my client updates and I > can’t > > afford to lose a client. As I was trying to do it the pain kept breaking > my > > concentration and I was getting so angry because I just wanted to get > the > > work done! Trouble is, when I get angry at the pain it seems the pain > gets > > worse A vicious circle and I would like to learn a way of not going > round > > on the ride. Distraction techniques work for me for moderate pain but > for > > the kind that takes over my whole thought process there is no > distracting. > > I’m not an angry person generally, but lately I’m angry much of the > time. > > The poor mes, I know, but how can it be gotten around? People have said > to > > me "Try harder" or "Think of those who are worse of than you". Ya right, > > that makes me feel a *lot* better. I’m pretty sure that not everyone > dealing > > with pain is angry. So, any ideas?
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Zyprexa ain’t something to "take" for anger…that is an atypical antipsychotic and has its place and its use (it is actually a helluva lot better than the older alternatives), but I wouldn’t recommend it for this…the SAM-E, have fun…not sure if it will work but it won’t hurt…as long as you are not allergic to it or any of its components. — Bill Work – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Aloha, > Get down to the behavoral health clinic, talk to a psych nurse or doc and > ask for a sample of Zyprexa 2.5 mgs. Get some Sam-e and start at 1200 mgs a > day. You will change for the better with few and manageable side effects > compared to your present regimen. > Way to keep trying to learn. > Aloha, P > I’m wondering how any of you might deal with the anger of being in pain. > Today I *had* to work. I was a week behind in my client updates and I > can’t > afford to lose a client. As I was trying to do it the pain kept breaking > my > concentration and I was getting so angry because I just wanted to get the > work done! Trouble is, when I get angry at the pain it seems the pain gets > worse A vicious circle and I would like to learn a way of not going > round > on the ride. Distraction techniques work for me for moderate pain but for > the kind that takes over my whole thought process there is no distracting. > I’m not an angry person generally, but lately I’m angry much of the time. > The poor mes, I know, but how can it be gotten around? People have said to > me "Try harder" or "Think of those who are worse of than you". Ya right, > that makes me feel a *lot* better. I’m pretty sure that not everyone > dealing > with pain is angry. So, any ideas?
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>Zyprexa ain’t something to "take" for anger…that is an atypical >antipsychotic and has its place and its use (it is actually a helluva lot >better than the older alternatives), but I wouldn’t recommend it for >this…the SAM-E, have fun…not sure if it will work but it won’t hurt…as >long as you are not allergic to it or any of its components.
Bill, What do you mean by "atypical antipsychotic?" What are the older alternatives? I might be more familiar with them. I’ve been taking zyprexa for over a year and just assumed it was for depression . . . one of the many things I’m taking for the "black dog," as Churchill described it. Thanks. mary
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Mary, Zyprexa is an atypical anti-psychotic, which means it is much less likely to give you extra-pyramidal symptoms or tardive dyskinesia. The more "typical" are Haldol/Thorazine/Stellazine/Mellaril/Navane, etc. It is used for other purposes, including depression, but to just "take" it for "anger" is foolish. This is not like taking a standard anti-depressant… — Bill Work
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Zyprexa ain’t something to "take" for anger…that is an atypical >antipsychotic and has its place and its use (it is actually a helluva lot >better than the older alternatives), but I wouldn’t recommend it for >this…the SAM-E, have fun…not sure if it will work but it won’t hurt…as >long as you are not allergic to it or any of its components. > Bill, > What do you mean by "atypical antipsychotic?" What are the older > alternatives? I might be more familiar with them. I’ve been taking zyprexa > for over a year and just assumed it was for depression . . . one of the many > things I’m taking for the "black dog," as Churchill described it. > Thanks. > mary
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Zyprexa is also used for bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness). I suspect that, like other meds that affect the serotonergic system (especially the SSRI anti-depressants), it would help reduce anger. I think any of the SSRI’s (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, etc) could conceivably help with your anger control. > Hmm, never thought of it as psychosis.
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>Mary, Zyprexa is an atypical anti-psychotic, which means it is much less >likely to give you extra-pyramidal symptoms or tardive dyskinesia. The more >"typical" are Haldol/Thorazine/Stellazine/Mellaril/Navane, etc. >It is used for other purposes, including depression, but to just "take" it >for "anger" is foolish. This is not like taking a standard >anti-depressant…
Bill, I think the attributions got messed up in this thread. I’m taking zyprexa regularly for depression and I don’t just pop one for "anger." I’m a little concerned to see that it’s the same type of drug as haldol or thorazine (less the side effects). Is zyprexa commonly prescribed for depression, like the SSRIs, or do you suppose my doctor prescribed it (in addition to several others) because I’ve expressed some anger related to my situation? Or is it because I’ve got moderate to severe treatment-resistant depression? Ordinarily I would ask the doctor, but it’s like trying to talk to a fish. I only see him for medication and have a great individual therapist, but he’s the best guy in town for pharmacology and my medication situation is a little bit complex. Believe it or not, in a town of 70,000 with a university medical center he’s the best there is. He’s the one other shrinks send their family members to. He made me so irritated by asking me a question about a Jewish holiday or belief, then charging me for the extra time we spent talking about HIS question! And I have to pay him out of pocket. Sorry, I’ll turn the rant off . . . my questions are really only in the first paragraph. Thanks. mary
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moderate to severe treatment-resistant depression — Bill Work
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bill, I think the attributions got messed up in this thread. I’m taking > zyprexa regularly for depression and I don’t just pop one for "anger." I’m a > little concerned to see that it’s the same type of drug as haldol or thorazine > (less the side effects). Is zyprexa commonly prescribed for depression, like > the SSRIs, or do you suppose my doctor prescribed it (in addition to several > others) because I’ve expressed some anger related to my situation? Or is it > because I’ve got moderate to severe treatment-resistant depression?
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>moderate to severe treatment-resistant depression
Thanks. No need to ask the Big Tuna now! B-) mary
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Mary, Zyprexa is an atypical anti-psychotic, which means it is much less >likely to give you extra-pyramidal symptoms or tardive dyskinesia. The more >"typical" are Haldol/Thorazine/Stellazine/Mellaril/Navane, etc. >It is used for other purposes, including depression, but to just "take" it >for "anger" is foolish. This is not like taking a standard >anti-depressant… > Bill, I think the attributions got messed up in this thread. I’m taking > zyprexa regularly for depression and I don’t just pop one for "anger." I’m a > little concerned to see that it’s the same type of drug as haldol or thorazine > (less the side effects). Is zyprexa commonly prescribed for depression, like > the SSRIs, or do you suppose my doctor prescribed it (in addition to several > others) because I’ve expressed some anger related to my situation? Or is it > because I’ve got moderate to severe treatment-resistant depression? > Ordinarily I would ask the doctor, but it’s like trying to talk to a fish. I > only see him for medication and have a great individual therapist, but he’s > the best guy in town for pharmacology and my medication situation is a little > bit complex. Believe it or not, in a town of 70,000 with a university medical > center he’s the best there is. He’s the one other shrinks send their family > members to. He made me so irritated by asking me a question about a Jewish > holiday or belief, then charging me for the extra time we spent talking about > HIS question! And I have to pay him out of pocket. > Sorry, I’ll turn the rant off . . . my questions are really only in the first > paragraph. Thanks. > mary
Mary, it must be standard to chg. for giving them info. When I was 16, and anyone with eyes could see why I was there for depression. (anyone who’d seen the fambly) this man would charge to ask me about good places to train and stable his daughters’s horse. DX? mental problems from water retention during menses affecting brain. rx diurhetics (sp) I’M CURED codeeee Before you buy.
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