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any info would be great.

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>any info would be great.

I lost the URL but I read about the experience on alt.drugs. There is an industrial solvent which is converted to GHB by the liver. The author of the alt.drugs account used it for over a year and eventually it messed up his body so bad he dumped his 20-liter supply down the drain. Although converted to GHB the experience was very different.  Soon he began to notice serious side-effects, including cloudy urine which indicates kidney distress.  Of course there is no scientific study on this chemical’s effect on the body, I believe that it probably causes serious liver, kidney, and brain damage. Stick to LSD. headcase

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>Not really, my advice would be to NOT take GHB. Stay away from any kind of >illegal street drugs, booze, etc. >The SSRIs didnt work for you Tore? What is your diagnosis? Major depression? >Bipolar? OCD? Anxiety problems like panic? What? You must let us know what your >diagnosis is so suggestions can be made for you dude. >Eric >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FactsAndFallaciesOfDepression >FIDO…Fuck It Drive On

Yes, even though I believe we have a right to put in our body’s what we wish, I think the GHB may not be an answer. I have been doing *a lot* of reading of entire books on *living* with various antidepressants. I am thinking of posting a website for support and scientific valid information on not only *good* use of the a.d’s, but the "proper" and "effective" augmentation strategies, and *why* you MUST be aggressive and demand a shot at  many of the proven augmentation methods from your doc if your one med isn’t working.  (For example…going a fair bit over a ‘labled’ dose, or using only a small amount, that a doctor may excuse as not being of any use.) If your doc won’t help you, fire them, and move on. Be *well* prepared. I also don’t want to sound nasty, but I highly recommend *completely forgetting* any of this ‘alternative’ suppliment garbage. You shouldn’t and are unwise to treat yourself with some of the popular methods..like ‘St. Johns Wort’ or ‘SAM-e’. In fact, you are *putting yourself at a danger* by not getting *EFFECTIVE* treatment and settling for some very weak and problemetic characteristics of these other ‘natural’ suppliments. As a comparrison…they are NO more natural the the med Lithium, a salt. From the literature, Lithium is not useful for all cases of depression, but I wouldn’t be surprised if even you tried Lithium rather then these other meds, you would find it still more effective. The *other* hardest part is that you have to let go of most of your old self…trash it. You gotta make changes involving people in your life, and how you treat yourself. I’ll post some more latter on…but you deserve the best, and should settle for nothing less. Jay

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