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> groetjes en van hartelijk welkom > sorry…. i speak dutch and its a bit rusty… ;o))) > hi and welcome though.

Hi and thank you, you did fine! ) > i know efexor can make you drowsy when you’re first using it too – the > side effects wear off in a couple of weeks though. same with a lot of > other things – hang in there, once your body gets adjusted to them the > side effects can tend to disappear.

Yes, the side effects are gone, but when something "bad" happens, it’s back to "start", same pain in stomach, same feeling of no power… > i’m also waiting for the moment before deciding about mood stabilisers – > but thats cos my bipolar is mild, i have cyclothymia. if you’ve got > bipolar II, maybe thats why your doctor is waiting for a bit.. or if you > have a tendency more towards depression than mania?…

I don’t know which bipolar I have … yes, I have a tendency towards depression. *sighs* > all the best

Thank you, you too! Ragnar – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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>>groetjes en van hartelijk welkom >sorry…. i speak dutch and its a bit rusty… ;o))) >hi and welcome though. > Hi and thank you, you did fine! )

wat leuk! ;o))) well its a few years since i was speaking it… i used to live in Utrecht… but i can still remember a few things i guess…! > Yes, the side effects are gone, but when something "bad" happens, it’s back > to "start", same pain in stomach, same feeling of no power…

(((…. that doesnt sound like much fun…. i still get some side effects from the sertraline i take, they come and go. if its really disturbing you (which it sounds like it is (((… ) then its worth asking your doc about alternatives. i’d definatley ask about a mood stabiliser rather than the ones which are sedating you heavily, as lynda suggested – because with what i’m on, i can hardly feel the meds, which is cool… i feel more like "me", just balanced ))) > I don’t know which bipolar I have … yes, I have a tendency towards > depression. *sighs*

yes, me too… i take sertraline (aka Zoloft or Lustral for us UK peeps) for the depression… at the moment i’m doing something similiar to you and taking diazepam for hypomania… cos mine are only mild. i’ve had a lot of rapid cycles lately though, so its possible i might be thinking about a mood stabiliser – my p-doc is just content to observe for the moment. the different types of bipolar are characterised by how intense and how long the episodes last – bipolar I is the classic "manic-depressive" with longer manic and depressive episodes, bipolar II is less severe but more rapid, hypomania and depression. bipolar III (thats me) is cyclothymia – short cycles of hypomania and depression, sometimes only lasting a few hours or an afternoon. underlying that i have an overall tendency to depression as well. its probably worth you having a look at some of the info that LyndaNP posts – a lot of those pages describe the different types of bipolar very accurately. the main thing to remember is that we’re all individual… its not absolute classifications but rather more like points upon a line… >all the best > Thank you, you too! > Ragnar

no probs ))) take care m — ~~~~~>><:>~~~~ iriXx icq: 125860882 "i’m not here… this isn’t happening…"

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greetings all. I tried to read all the messages, but I couldn’t do it, to restless and my attention went to so many things. I couldn’t concentrate. Doctor says I am bipolar. I take efexor 75 twice a day, and before I go to bed trazodane and seroquel. When I forget to take those pills, I can’t sleep at all. When I take them I feel so fuzzy next day, till late in the afternoon. Many times I think it’s best to end all this. It’s like I have no life. 6 pills a day, no joy, being fuzzy all day, etc. Is this my life for the rest of my life??? Let’s hope not, but it looks like it. I am home since March and I feel I am not progressing at all. Everything I do takes so much energy, and when I have to do something …. it looks like I have to climb a mountain. I sit here all day, staring at this screen. I force myself to be interested in things, but it won’t work. After awhile I go back to bed then, can’t sleep though, mind is going crazy when I am in bed. sorry to bother you, but I wrote this….I don’t know

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> greetings all.

Hello Ragnar… > I tried to read all the messages, but I couldn’t do it, to restless and my > attention went to so many things. I couldn’t concentrate.

Well its not just you some of the messages are a bit loopy :>) > Doctor says I am bipolar. I take efexor 75 twice a day, and before I go to > bed trazodane and seroquel. When I forget to take those pills, I can’t sleep > at all. When I take them I feel so fuzzy next day, till late in the > afternoon. > Many times I think it’s best to end all this. It’s like I have no life. 6 > pills a day, no joy, being fuzzy all day, etc. Is this my life for the rest > of my life??? Let’s hope not, but it looks like it.

NO NO..it just seems like it at the moment… the way you are feeling… > I am home since March and I feel I am not progressing at all. Everything I > do takes so much energy, and when I have to do something …. it looks like > I have to climb a mountain. > I sit here all day, staring at this screen. I force myself to be interested > in things, but it won’t work. After awhile I go back to bed then, can’t > sleep though, mind is going crazy when I am in bed. > sorry to bother you, but I wrote this….I don’t know

yes you do know ….why and lots of us are exactly like that.. a bit of feedback can be a good thing.. bring the screen alive at least. hello again Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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bobwhelan heeft geschreven> > >Well its not just you some of the messages are a bit loopy :>) >NO NO..it just seems like it at the moment… >the way you are feeling… >yes you do know ….why and lots of us are exactly like that.. >a bit of feedback can be a good thing.. >bring the screen alive at least. >hello again >Bob

Thank you Bob, your kind words are much appreciated. *smiles* Ragnar

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> bobwhelan heeft geschreven> > >Well its not just you some of the messages are a bit loopy :>) >NO NO..it just seems like it at the moment… >the way you are feeling… >yes you do know ….why and lots of us are exactly like that.. >a bit of feedback can be a good thing.. >bring the screen alive at least. >hello again >Bob > Thank you Bob, your kind words are much appreciated. *smiles* > Ragnar

thats OK Ragnar… How are things in Belgium? Here in England we have has a burst of winter ..ice snow and such but its gone now.. While it was here we thought it would go on for ever but it didnt. Of course it will be back.. Carpem Diem.. grasp the time :>) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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bobwhelan heeft geschreven in bericht: Hello Bob. >How are things in Belgium?

Rainy, chilly, but things are ok, I guess. Sabena, our national airliner is in big trouble, but it’s been that way a very looooong time. Can’t remember otherwise. The euro is coming fast. Oh boy, that will change alot here… we will need calculators and such. It’s very weird when I look at my bank account. I don’t know how much money I still have! Yesterday I installed ZoneAlarm, a firewall. It looks good (crosses my fingers). I have cable and I was advised to install an extra firewall. I truly wish these pills are out of my life…. maybe it will, some day. >Here in England we have has a burst of winter ..ice snow and such but its >gone now.. >While it was here we thought it would go on for ever but it didnt. >Of course it will be back..

Winter …. yukes!!!! The holidays are coming and really I hate that period. It’s so artificial … >Carpem Diem..

Carpe diem, trying to, very hard >grasp the time :>)

Ragnar )

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  Welcome to the ng, > greetings all. > I tried to read all the messages, but I couldn’t do it, to restless and my > attention went to so many things. I couldn’t concentrate. > Doctor says I am bipolar. I take efexor 75 twice a day, and before I go to > bed trazodane and seroquel.

snipped…  May I ask why you are not taking a mood stabilizer for your bipolar Duisorder? The Seroquel and Trazodone can contribute to your lethargy. Peace, Lynda

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>   Welcome to the ng,

Thank you, Lynda. >  May I ask why you are not taking a mood stabilizer for your bipolar > Duisorder?

The doctor says it’s not the time for that, yet. I’ll see him tomorrow. > The Seroquel and Trazodone can contribute to your lethargy.

Yes possible. I do hope this will end some day. > Peace, > Lynda

Peace and thank you, Lynda. Ragnar

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> greetings all.

groetjes en van hartelijk welkom sorry…. i speak dutch and its a bit rusty… ;o))) hi and welcome though. i know efexor can make you drowsy when you’re first using it too – the side effects wear off in a couple of weeks though. same with a lot of other things – hang in there, once your body gets adjusted to them the side effects can tend to disappear. a lot of psychopharmacology is a case of the doctor listening to you, and how discomforting the side effects of your meds are – when i’ve been on things that have given nasty side effects, i’ve often been shifted onto something else – after all, my depression will only get worse if i’m being made miserable by my medication. it *is* possible to find drugs which will both make you feel better and have bearable side-effects ))). i’m also waiting for the moment before deciding about mood stabilisers – but thats cos my bipolar is mild, i have cyclothymia. if you’ve got bipolar II, maybe thats why your doctor is waiting for a bit.. or if you have a tendency more towards depression than mania?… all the best ‘care m — ~~~~~>><:>~~~~ iriXx icq: 125860882 "i’m not here… this isn’t happening…"

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