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: I would like to share some of my experiences but I will have to save that : for another post as my eyes are starting to shrivel up from staring at my : computer screen. Hi there 
I think others are better to answer your questions than I am. BUt when you wish to share I will look forward to them. They are a wonderful group of people. take care of you, laura
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Hi Kerowyn: >* (Last one) In a manic or hypomanic episode, is it the body telling the >mind or the mind telling the body that the body does not need as much, if >any sleep??
There is a difference between the concept of "mind" and brain. I will dive in and say that during a hypo or manic episode the sleep disturbance is caused by the illness which causes dysfunction in the sleep control part(s) of the brain. Depression can effect the sleep also, either too much or too little, even insomnia. Insomnia must be the worst condition. It would be difficult to separate mental and physical aspects of the body, they are so inter-related as to be considered as one. My understanding of "mind" is: kind of consider it to be the software of a biological computer, the brain. Hope this helps, but I warn you in advance, my biological computer, like some biological clocks, isn’t always keeping the correct time. LW — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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DE DIGITALE STAD Op 20 Jan 1999, Leeway schreef: > Hi Kerowyn: >* (Last one) In a manic or hypomanic episode, is it the body telling the >mind or the mind telling the body that the body does not need as much, if >any sleep?? > There is a difference between the concept of "mind" and > brain. I will dive in and say that during a hypo or manic > episode the sleep disturbance is caused by the illness > which causes dysfunction in the sleep control part(s) of > the brain. Depression can effect the sleep also, either > too much or too little, even insomnia. Insomnia must be
Yeah, definitely, I suffer from bad insomnia, anorexia when depressed, this is not `cause I want to be thin, but because the brain tells the body it does not need, even resents food and sleep. After being put on Paroxetine (which has as side effects, weight loss and anorexia) and the subsequent lifting of depression, I put on 10!kgs (which is about 15% of my current weight!), and this put me in the category light, but not unhealthily so. I still suffer from sever dysregulation of sleep. Valium does not work for me, alcohol doesn’t work, mariuhana does not work (I don’t use these anymore). Only Zyprexa kinda seems to be enable to induce sleep in me, but I don’t want to take that shit every day (2 times as much money spent on groceries when taking tha gunk, while being asleep for 10 hours a day with vivid dreams and nightmares, and the withdrawl symptoms are also something I wish to avoid (hallucinations, anorexia, even more severe insomnia)) plus I do not get prescribed the stuff. I’d like to keep myself to the rules the pdoc gives me. So I guess I’ll just have to wait (I mean about 6 months of severe insomnia, enabling me to sleep once every two nights and days – should be able to wait a lil’ bit longer, <sigh>. > the worst condition. It would be difficult to separate > mental and physical aspects of the body, they are so > inter-related as to be considered as one. My understanding > of "mind" is: kind of consider it to be the software of a > biological computer, the brain. Hope this helps, but > I warn you in advance, my biological computer, like some > biological clocks, isn’t always keeping the correct time.
Maybe Melatonin could work for you ? Just a suggestion. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LW > — > For more information about this service, send e-mail to:
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aurora–i couldn’t havew said it any better! welcome kerowyn (what a nice came ) a – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I’ve been lurking here for a couple weeks and I now feel comfortable to > post. >Welcome Kerowyn >For the record, I have never been diagnosed with anything other than > physical aliments. I have never seen a psych doc for that matter, and don’t > want to. However, I have a couple questions. Any and all replies are greatly > appreciated. I’ve done quite a bit or reading on Bipolar and depression > after the incident I had a year ago. That is a long story. Anyway, I’ve been > told by a few people, including a good friend of mine who is BP, that it > sounds like I am, so I am only in search of more info. >Yeah, takes one to know one. I am surprised to realize that so many of >my friends are BP and actually coming to realize it without my direct >intervention. > * Can one have repeated episodes of mania (hypomania), without any > depressive episodes, over a period of months? >Yep. Maybe the depressions were so mild you didn’t notice. I tend to >usually have hypomania or mixed hypomania, not much depression. > * What is a mixed episode like? I am very confused on this because mania and > depression are at opposite ends of the spectrum. How can someone be in both > states simultaneously? >Low self-esteem and negative view of life while having lots of energy, >noise in your head, sometimes paranoia, severe anxiety, racing thoughts >and confusion. Sometimes racing thoughts of how and why to commit >suicide. > * (Last one) In a manic or hypomanic episode, is it the body telling the > mind or the mind telling the body that the body does not need as much, if > any sleep?? >Depends on how you define it, is brain chemistry part of the mind or >body. Your brain chemistry is telling you that you don’t need to sleep >and your body is affected by that too through chemistry started by an >imbalance in your brain. Also lack of sleep can trigger (hypo)mania. > I would like to share some of my experiences but I will have to save that > for another post as my eyes are starting to shrivel up from staring at my > computer screen. >Look forward to hearing them. >Aurora > ~Kerowyn~ > There was a young lady girl named Bright, > Whose speed was far faster than light, > She traveled one day, > In a relative way, > And returned on the previous night. > ~~A. H. R. Buller
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> Hi, > I’ve been lurking here for a couple weeks and I now feel comfortable to > post.
Welcome Kerowyn For the record, I have never been diagnosed with anything other than > physical aliments. I have never seen a psych doc for that matter, and don’t > want to. However, I have a couple questions. Any and all replies are greatly > appreciated. I’ve done quite a bit or reading on Bipolar and depression > after the incident I had a year ago. That is a long story. Anyway, I’ve been > told by a few people, including a good friend of mine who is BP, that it > sounds like I am, so I am only in search of more info.
Yeah, takes one to know one. I am surprised to realize that so many of my friends are BP and actually coming to realize it without my direct intervention. > * Can one have repeated episodes of mania (hypomania), without any > depressive episodes, over a period of months?
Yep. Maybe the depressions were so mild you didn’t notice. I tend to usually have hypomania or mixed hypomania, not much depression. > * What is a mixed episode like? I am very confused on this because mania and > depression are at opposite ends of the spectrum. How can someone be in both > states simultaneously?
Low self-esteem and negative view of life while having lots of energy, noise in your head, sometimes paranoia, severe anxiety, racing thoughts and confusion. Sometimes racing thoughts of how and why to commit suicide. > * (Last one) In a manic or hypomanic episode, is it the body telling the > mind or the mind telling the body that the body does not need as much, if > any sleep??
Depends on how you define it, is brain chemistry part of the mind or body. Your brain chemistry is telling you that you don’t need to sleep and your body is affected by that too through chemistry started by an imbalance in your brain. Also lack of sleep can trigger (hypo)mania. > I would like to share some of my experiences but I will have to save that > for another post as my eyes are starting to shrivel up from staring at my > computer screen.
Look forward to hearing them. Aurora – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ~Kerowyn~ > There was a young lady girl named Bright, > Whose speed was far faster than light, > She traveled one day, > In a relative way, > And returned on the previous night. > ~~A. H. R. Buller
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Hi, I’ve been lurking here for a couple weeks and I now feel comfortable to post. For the record, I have never been diagnosed with anything other than physical aliments. I have never seen a psych doc for that matter, and don’t want to. However, I have a couple questions. Any and all replies are greatly appreciated. I’ve done quite a bit or reading on Bipolar and depression after the incident I had a year ago. That is a long story. Anyway, I’ve been told by a few people, including a good friend of mine who is BP, that it sounds like I am, so I am only in search of more info. * Can one have repeated episodes of mania (hypomania), without any depressive episodes, over a period of months? * What is a mixed episode like? I am very confused on this because mania and depression are at opposite ends of the spectrum. How can someone be in both states simultaneously? * (Last one) In a manic or hypomanic episode, is it the body telling the mind or the mind telling the body that the body does not need as much, if any sleep?? I would like to share some of my experiences but I will have to save that for another post as my eyes are starting to shrivel up from staring at my computer screen. ~Kerowyn~ There was a young lady girl named Bright, Whose speed was far faster than light, She traveled one day, In a relative way, And returned on the previous night. ~~A. H. R. Buller
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