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It wreaks ethically and the sheer volume of the ads, ad after ad, is disgusting, pushing the newest and most expensive drugs, driving up the cost of heath care for everybody.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> why is this so bad? isn’t it medication used to help people? it’s not > crack… > it’s unbelievable. Over here in the UK, we endlessly criticise our media, > but I really can’t imagine anyone being allowed to do that. > Although we do have a tendency to follow America’s bad habits blindly, and > ignore the good ones, hope we don’t follow this one! > Namaste > J > > Oh yes, they certainly do, that and a lot more. Kind of turns your > stomach, > > no?? > > > do they really advertise anti-depressants on TV in the states? > > > Thats incredible… > > > J > > >>> Hi folks, > > >>> I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the > US > > > or > > >>> Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also > using > 2g > > > of > > >>> B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since > taking > > > B5 > > >>> I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my > > > muscles > > >>> feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from > this > > > symp- > > >>> toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is > this > > > even > > >>> a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine > anti-depressant > > > ? > > >> I don’t know much about AD or Paxil but > > >> according to the people at rec.drugs.smart > > >> B5 is known for its ability to help other drugs cross the "brain > blood > > > barrier" > > >> thereby increasing/aiding in the absorbtion of some suppliments and > or > > > drugs.In > > >> that way it could possibly have some effect on the antidepressant, > since > > > those > > >> drugs act primarily on brain chemicals. > > >> Since no one here is a doctor, least of all me. I think you’d be > smart > to > > > talk > > >> with your GP and find out more about the type of problems you’ve > > > encountered. > > >> You might also do some googling to see if there are any other posts > about > > >> vitamins and Paxil interacting, could be its more of a Paxil problem > than > > > B5. > > >> Either way good luck to you, sorry I wasn’t able to be of more help.

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why is this so bad? isn’t it medication used to help people? it’s not crack…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> it’s unbelievable. Over here in the UK, we endlessly criticise our media, > but I really can’t imagine anyone being allowed to do that. > Although we do have a tendency to follow America’s bad habits blindly, and > ignore the good ones, hope we don’t follow this one! > Namaste > J > Oh yes, they certainly do, that and a lot more. Kind of turns your > stomach, > no?? > > do they really advertise anti-depressants on TV in the states? > > Thats incredible… > > J > >>> Hi folks, > >>> I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the > US > > or > >>> Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using > 2g > > of > >>> B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since > taking > > B5 > >>> I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my > > muscles > >>> feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this > > symp- > >>> toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this > > even > >>> a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine > anti-depressant > > ? > >> I don’t know much about AD or Paxil but > >> according to the people at rec.drugs.smart > >> B5 is known for its ability to help other drugs cross the "brain blood > > barrier" > >> thereby increasing/aiding in the absorbtion of some suppliments and or > > drugs.In > >> that way it could possibly have some effect on the antidepressant, > since > > those > >> drugs act primarily on brain chemicals. > >> Since no one here is a doctor, least of all me. I think you’d be smart > to > > talk > >> with your GP and find out more about the type of problems you’ve > > encountered. > >> You might also do some googling to see if there are any other posts > about > >> vitamins and Paxil interacting, could be its more of a Paxil problem > than > > B5. > >> Either way good luck to you, sorry I wasn’t able to be of more help.

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Did you mean "reeks?" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > It wreaks ethically and the sheer volume of the ads, ad after ad, is > disgusting, pushing the newest and most expensive drugs, driving up the cost > of heath care for everybody. > why is this so bad? isn’t it medication used to help people? it’s not > crack… >> it’s unbelievable. Over here in the UK, we endlessly criticise our > media, >> but I really can’t imagine anyone being allowed to do that. >> Although we do have a tendency to follow America’s bad habits blindly, > and >> ignore the good ones, hope we don’t follow this one! >> Namaste >> J >>> Oh yes, they certainly do, that and a lot more. Kind of turns your >> stomach, >>> no?? >>>> do they really advertise anti-depressants on TV in the states? >>>> Thats incredible… >>>> J >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in > the >> US >>>> or >>>>>> Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also > using >> 2g >>>> of >>>>>> B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since >> taking >>>> B5 >>>>>> I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and > my >>>> muscles >>>>>> feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from > this >>>> symp- >>>>>> toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is > this >>>> even >>>>>> a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine >> anti-depressant >>>> ? >>>>> I don’t know much about AD or Paxil but >>>>> according to the people at rec.drugs.smart >>>>> B5 is known for its ability to help other drugs cross the "brain > blood >>>> barrier" >>>>> thereby increasing/aiding in the absorbtion of some suppliments and > or >>>> drugs.In >>>>> that way it could possibly have some effect on the antidepressant, >> since >>>> those >>>>> drugs act primarily on brain chemicals. >>>>> Since no one here is a doctor, least of all me. I think you’d be > smart >> to >>>> talk >>>>> with your GP and find out more about the type of problems you’ve >>>> encountered. >>>>> You might also do some googling to see if there are any other posts >> about >>>>> vitamins and Paxil interacting, could be its more of a Paxil > problem >> than >>>> B5. >>>>> Either way good luck to you, sorry I wasn’t able to be of more > help.

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Oh yes, they certainly do, that and a lot more. Kind of turns your stomach, no?? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > do they really advertise anti-depressants on TV in the states? > Thats incredible… > J >> Hi folks, >> I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US > or >> Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g > of >> B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking > B5 >> I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my > muscles >> feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this > symp- >> toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this > even >> a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant > ? > I don’t know much about AD or Paxil but > according to the people at rec.drugs.smart > B5 is known for its ability to help other drugs cross the "brain blood > barrier" > thereby increasing/aiding in the absorbtion of some suppliments and or > drugs.In > that way it could possibly have some effect on the antidepressant, since > those > drugs act primarily on brain chemicals. > Since no one here is a doctor, least of all me. I think you’d be smart to > talk > with your GP and find out more about the type of problems you’ve > encountered. > You might also do some googling to see if there are any other posts about > vitamins and Paxil interacting, could be its more of a Paxil problem than > B5. > Either way good luck to you, sorry I wasn’t able to be of more help.

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Maybe Zoloft wasn’t prescribed because, as the commercial says, it has "certain sexual side effects . . .". For the human male, it’s like chemical castration – the libido ceases to exist in some; heard it’s not much better for the female. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I seriously doubt that B5 interacted with Paxil to cause the symptoms > that you described.  However, it’s recommended that folic acid (B9) > should be taken with AD (antidepressants) as well as anti-epileptic > drugs (AEDs) and it is very unfortunate that your doc failed to inform > you about it.  Here is one of the studies (I chose an easy to read > one:-). > Before you throw B5 altogether I suggest that you add folic acid; I > would start with 400 mcg (800 is the RDA) and even increase it to 800 > if no adverse reaction/s. Folic acid has been found to help in the > prevention of so many other neurological disorders. > BTW, why you were prescribed Paxil and not Zoloft, which is a much > superior medication and was the prescribing doc a psychiatrist or your > generalist/family doc/internist? > Good luck, > ada > You may want to consult your physician or your pharmacist but I don’t see > how it could cause a reaction. >> Hi folks, >> I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US or >> Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g >  of >> B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking B5 >> I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my >  muscles >> feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this >  symp- >> toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this even >> a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant ?

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it’s unbelievable. Over here in the UK, we endlessly criticise our media, but I really can’t imagine anyone being allowed to do that. Although we do have a tendency to follow America’s bad habits blindly, and ignore the good ones, hope we don’t follow this one! Namaste J

> Oh yes, they certainly do, that and a lot more. Kind of turns your stomach, > no??

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> do they really advertise anti-depressants on TV in the states? > Thats incredible… > J >>> Hi folks, >>> I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US > or >>> Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g > of >>> B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking > B5 >>> I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my > muscles >>> feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this > symp- >>> toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this > even >>> a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant > ? >> I don’t know much about AD or Paxil but >> according to the people at rec.drugs.smart >> B5 is known for its ability to help other drugs cross the "brain blood > barrier" >> thereby increasing/aiding in the absorbtion of some suppliments and or > drugs.In >> that way it could possibly have some effect on the antidepressant, since > those >> drugs act primarily on brain chemicals. >> Since no one here is a doctor, least of all me. I think you’d be smart to > talk >> with your GP and find out more about the type of problems you’ve > encountered. >> You might also do some googling to see if there are any other posts about >> vitamins and Paxil interacting, could be its more of a Paxil problem than > B5. >> Either way good luck to you, sorry I wasn’t able to be of more help.

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do they really advertise anti-depressants on TV in the states? Thats incredible… J

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi folks, >I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US or >Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g of >B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking B5 >I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my muscles >feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this symp- >toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this even >a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant ? > I don’t know much about AD or Paxil but > according to the people at rec.drugs.smart > B5 is known for its ability to help other drugs cross the "brain blood barrier" > thereby increasing/aiding in the absorbtion of some suppliments and or drugs.In > that way it could possibly have some effect on the antidepressant, since those > drugs act primarily on brain chemicals. > Since no one here is a doctor, least of all me. I think you’d be smart to talk > with your GP and find out more about the type of problems you’ve encountered. > You might also do some googling to see if there are any other posts about > vitamins and Paxil interacting, could be its more of a Paxil problem than B5. > Either way good luck to you, sorry I wasn’t able to be of more help.

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> Yeah, and have you noticed how when they’re describing the side effects they > tend to play this "happy" xylophone music and show images of cats rolling > and people strolling through meadows? It’s like, you may hear the words > "bloody vomit" or "liver failure", but what you see and hear is > "happy-go-lucky". Gee, one might conclude they’re trying to play down the > bad side effects!    ;0

Yeah, it’s called advertising.  Usually those *bad* side effects are so unlikely that only one in a million would have any serious problems.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Side affects? What side affects????? <g> > > Not stupid. Doctors over prescribe them, like many other things. > > Christ, in the U.S. they have tv ads for them like they are hamburgers > or > > dish soap. > Yeah, and have you noticed how when they’re describing the side effects > they > tend to play this "happy" xylophone music and show images of cats rolling > and people strolling through meadows? It’s like, you may hear the words > "bloody vomit" or "liver failure", but what you see and hear is > "happy-go-lucky". Gee, one might conclude they’re trying to play down the > bad side effects!    ;0

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Side affects? What side affects????? <g>

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not stupid. Doctors over prescribe them, like many other things. > Christ, in the U.S. they have tv ads for them like they are hamburgers or > dish soap. > Yeah, and have you noticed how when they’re describing the side effects they > tend to play this "happy" xylophone music and show images of cats rolling > and people strolling through meadows? It’s like, you may hear the words > "bloody vomit" or "liver failure", but what you see and hear is > "happy-go-lucky". Gee, one might conclude they’re trying to play down the > bad side effects!    ;0

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I seriously doubt that B5 interacted with Paxil to cause the symptoms that you described.  However, it’s recommended that folic acid (B9) should be taken with AD (antidepressants) as well as anti-epileptic drugs (AEDs) and it is very unfortunate that your doc failed to inform you about it.  Here is one of the studies (I chose an easy to read one:-). Before you throw B5 altogether I suggest that you add folic acid; I would start with 400 mcg (800 is the RDA) and even increase it to 800 if no adverse reaction/s. Folic acid has been found to help in the prevention of so many other neurological disorders. BTW, why you were prescribed Paxil and not Zoloft, which is a much superior medication and was the prescribing doc a psychiatrist or your generalist/family doc/internist? Good luck, ada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You may want to consult your physician or your pharmacist but I don’t see > how it could cause a reaction. > Hi folks, > I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US or > Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g >  of > B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking B5 > I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my >  muscles > feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this >  symp- > toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this even > a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant ?

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You may want to consult your physician or your pharmacist but I don’t see how it could cause a reaction.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi folks, > I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US or > Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g of > B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking B5 > I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my muscles > feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this symp- > toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this even > a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant ?

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Stop taking the damn antidepressant. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi folks, > I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US or > Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g of > B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking B5 > I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my muscles > feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this symp- > toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this even > a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant ?

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> Hi folks, >I’m taking an anti-depressant called Tagonis (aka under Paxil in the US or >Seroxat in the UK) since 1995 and for about two months I’m also using 2g of >B5 a day in timed-realease tabs to cope with my oily skin. Since taking B5 >I’m feeling less able to concentrate, suffering from vertigo and my muscles >feel slabby. I dropped B5 yesterday and I quickly recovered from this symp- >toms. Has anyone here also experienced this when taking B5 or is this even >a commonly known effect when taking B5 with a paroxetine anti-depressant ?

I don’t know much about AD or Paxil but according to the people at rec.drugs.smart B5 is known for its ability to help other drugs cross the "brain blood barrier" thereby increasing/aiding in the absorbtion of some suppliments and or drugs.In that way it could possibly have some effect on the antidepressant, since those drugs act primarily on brain chemicals. Since no one here is a doctor, least of all me. I think you’d be smart to talk with your GP and find out more about the type of problems you’ve encountered. You might also do some googling to see if there are any other posts about vitamins and Paxil interacting, could be its more of a Paxil problem than B5. Either way good luck to you, sorry I wasn’t able to be of more help.

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Not stupid. Doctors over prescribe them, like many other things. Christ, in the U.S. they have tv ads for them like they are hamburgers or dish soap.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Stop taking the damn antidepressant. >  You seem to be experienced in giving stupid answers.

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> Not stupid. Doctors over prescribe them, like many other things. > Christ, in the U.S. they have tv ads for them like they are hamburgers or > dish soap.

Yeah, and have you noticed how when they’re describing the side effects they tend to play this "happy" xylophone music and show images of cats rolling and people strolling through meadows? It’s like, you may hear the words "bloody vomit" or "liver failure", but what you see and hear is "happy-go-lucky". Gee, one might conclude they’re trying to play down the bad side effects!    ;0

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